Hickory Learning Group1.5 CEUs (0.5 Learning, 0.5 Ethics, 0.5 Supervision)88 minOn-demand

Rad N Bad: Telehealth in ABA — Efficiency vs. Effectiveness, Risk-Benefit Analysis, and Ethical Supervision at a Distance

Presented by Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

Rad N Bad: Telehealth in ABA — Efficiency vs. Effectiveness, Risk-Benefit Analysis, and Ethical Supervision at a Distance
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Telehealth expanded quickly in ABA, and with it came questions about when remote services are clinically effective versus merely efficient. In this episode, hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero examine telehealth through the lens of the Ethics Code for Behavior Analysts. They discuss conducting a risk-benefit analysis before choosing a telehealth modality; how inappropriate remote administration can compromise assessment validity; the difference between indirect and direct assessment via telehealth; evaluating whether a supervisor has the skills to supervise effectively at a distance; monitoring RBT treatment integrity remotely and acting on integrity data; access and equity issues such as technology and caregiver availability; billing transparency, including caregiver review and sign-off of session notes; and when to transition a case if telehealth is not producing benefit. They also describe strong uses of telehealth, including caregiver training using behavioral skills training. Participants will leave with decision criteria for selecting, monitoring, and discontinuing telehealth services.

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About this CEU

Telehealth is a great tool, but it isn't a fit for every learner, every assessment, or every supervisor. Mike and I dig into how to decide when telehealth helps clients and when it mainly helps the schedule or the business. You'll get a practical risk-benefit framework you can use on your own caseload. Disclosures & Publication Info No commercial products discussed. Both instructors are employed in ABA service delivery. Case examples were described on air in general terms; no client-identifying details are included in course materials. Published: 2025-06-20 Listening to the podcast episode does not earn CEUs; credit is earned only by completing this OpenCEU event.

Abstract

Telehealth expanded quickly in ABA, and with it came questions about when remote services are clinically effective versus merely efficient. In this episode, hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero examine telehealth through the lens of the Ethics Code for Behavior Analysts. They discuss conducting a risk-benefit analysis before choosing a telehealth modality; how inappropriate remote administration can compromise assessment validity; the difference between indirect and direct assessment via telehealth; evaluating whether a supervisor has the skills to supervise effectively at a distance; monitoring RBT treatment integrity remotely and acting on integrity data; access and equity issues such as technology and caregiver availability; billing transparency, including caregiver review and sign-off of session notes; and when to transition a case if telehealth is not producing benefit. They also describe strong uses of telehealth, including caregiver training using behavioral skills training. Participants will leave with decision criteria for selecting, monitoring, and discontinuing telehealth services.

Credits

1.5 CEUs (0.5 learning, 0.5 ethics, 0.5 supervision) · 88 min

From the talk

What was covered

Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero on when telehealth ABA helps the client and when it only helps the schedule.

  • Run a risk-benefit analysis for each service piece, not the whole case. Direct therapy, caregiver training, and supervision are separate calls.
  • Keep remote assessment to indirect tools, and tell the receiving analyst that a direct assessment is still needed.
  • Ask both the family and the technician for real consent to telehealth, and honor a no by reassigning the case.
  • Assess a supervisor's remote skills before handing them a video caseload, including how they collect and act on integrity data.
  • Have caregivers review and sign every session note, even where your state does not require it.
  • If integrity data and progress both stay flat, change the plan or transition the case instead of waiting.

Efficiency Versus Effectiveness: The Question Behind Every Telehealth Choice

Telehealth grew fast in ABA, and COVID sped it up. Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero both worked through that shift. Sean spent months coaching a father by video on bed making, self-help, and leisure goals. Mike used video inside a school building to cut face-to-face contact between rooms. Both say the tool helped families who were desperate for support. Both also say the field never went back and checked its work after the pandemic eased.

The episode turns on one word pair. Efficient means it saves time, drive, and overhead. Effective means the learner gains skills and the plan works. The hosts argue that many companies chase the first and then call it the second. A day of back-to-back video visits looks great on a schedule. It can still teach a learner nothing. They point to the telehealth guidelines from the Council of Autism Service Providers. The guidelines keep landing on the same caveat: it works when it is done correctly.

Their simplest test is to say the clinical reason out loud before you pick video. If the only reason is your calendar, that is efficiency talking. The same test applies to the claim you send. Fifteen minutes of real coaching does not earn an hour of billed time.

You were there for 15 minutes, but you build the whole hour.

From the talk — Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

How to Run a Risk-Benefit Analysis Before You Pick Telehealth

A risk-benefit analysis (weighing likely harm against likely gain) comes first. The hosts want it run per client and per piece of service. Direct therapy, caregiver training, and supervision are three different questions. One can be a clear yes while the other two are a no.

Sean describes a family in a rural county with no steady internet and almost no cell service. Video kept cutting in and out, and he could not safely send staff down that road. He told the family that in-person clinic services nearby would fit better. That talk was hard, and he still thinks it was right. Honesty cost less than months of weak service.

Push the environment, the caregiver, and the behavior through the same filter. Is there a private space and a connection that holds? Is an adult free to be in the room and take part? Is there aggression, self-injury, or property damage that needs hands nearby? Who is the technician, and how new are they? Gaps in technology and caregiver time belong in the math, not in a footnote.

And are you actually doing more harm for the client by providing telehealth services?

From the talk — Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

Consent and Privacy: Signing a Form Is Not Choosing Telehealth

Consent usually gets signed at intake, buried in a stack of forms. The hosts ask whether that is informed consent (a real choice after full facts). Real consent names the limits, the benefits, and the plain right to say no. A BCBA (a board certified behavior analyst) should never lean on a family to accept video. If services are only offered one way, the signature is not a choice.

They push the same question one level down. Ask the RBT (a registered behavior technician) whether remote supervision works for them. If the answer is no, reassign the case instead of handing over a tablet. Staff who cannot advocate and cannot get help are the ones who burn out and leave.

Privacy travels with the camera. Remote work happens in homes, apartments, and coffee shops. Roommates and neighbors can hear a client's name through a wall. Use earbuds, guard your screen, and use initials when anyone else is in range. Community sessions are the hardest case of all. You cannot protect privacy while trailing someone down a sidewalk with a camera.

Is it informed consent or is it forced service delivery?

From the talk — Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

Remote Direct Therapy and the Least Restrictive Test

Their sharpest argument is about direct therapy by video. A learner who can work well with a clinician on a screen already has a less restrictive arrangement. That phrase means fewer limits on the person. So what justifies one-to-one hours in the room, or a clinic seat? If you can show the learner no longer needs a body there, you did your job. Trade those hours to someone on the waitlist who needs them.

The flip side is just as blunt. For many learners, remote direct work simply does not run. One learner looked at the camera, said all done, and shut the laptop. Skills taught on screen may not generalize (carry over to new people and places). Staff also get stuck with a choice they should never face. A tech holds a tablet while a learner bolts from the room. That is a system failure, not a staff failure.

They question the four-hour remote direct session billed as direct care. A short visit to review programs and answer questions is easy to defend. Forty-five minutes of coaching is not three hours of therapy. Coverage costs show up too. When a remote session goes sideways, an in-person tech leaves their own learner to go help.

Follow the learner out of the room, or do I get the iPad?

From the talk — Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

Two Ways Remote Administration Threatens Assessment Validity

Assessment is where telehealth breaks most quietly. Indirect assessment (interviews, forms, and caregiver report) travels well over video. Direct assessment (watching the skill happen live) usually does not. Here are the two threats the hosts name. First, the camera shows one small slice of a room, so you miss context and setup. Second, you cannot control prompting, timing, and materials from a screen. Both put validity at risk (whether the score means what you think).

Sean drew a line early in his career. He used indirect tools remotely, then wrote starter goals for pairing, basic communication, and basic social skills. He also told the receiving analyst what the picture was missing. Redo this with a direct assessment. Write an addendum if the goals do not fit the learner you meet.

Mike sees the other end of that handoff. He opens a remote assessment, reads goals that do not match the child, and asks what those hours bought. The one case they both accept is a very rural start, used to see whether services fit at all. Even then, write caregiver training goals and do not prescribe hours nobody can deliver.

I refused to do direct testing via tele.

From the talk — Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

Supervisor Competencies for Supervising at a Distance

A certificate is not a telehealth skill set. The hosts want supervisors assessed before they get a remote caseload. The hosts name three competencies. They must coach without hands-on modeling. They must read a room through a narrow camera view. They must teach staff to run both the device and the session. Wanting a hybrid week is not one of them.

Remote treatment integrity monitoring (how closely staff follow the plan) is its own skill. You need a plan for what you watch, how you score it, and how feedback lands. Crisis moments are the hard limit. Nobody supervises a full crisis well through a screen, which is why candidate choice matters up front.

Then there is the math that burns techs out. A new tech with a forty hour training gets twenty hours a week with a learner with severe behavior. Supervision is allotted at ten percent, and all of it is remote. Mike describes one clinic holding two caseloads side by side. In-person techs get modeling and backup. Remote techs watch that happen and cannot have it. He answers the burnout question with one word: absolutely.

have you assessed their skills and can they actually provide effective telehealth supervision

From the talk — Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

When Integrity Data Says Stop: Modifying or Transitioning a Case

Integrity data only matters if someone acts on it. Sean took integrity data remotely and found the plan was not being run. He wrote it in notes and raised it with supervisors. The tech got a raise instead of accountability. That outcome taught the tech that feedback carried no weight at all, and it left Sean coaching into a void.

He names the honest reason he held that case too long. The tech needed the job in an area with few openings. The family had no other support in the home. Those pressures are real, and he does not pretend otherwise. Neither one is a clinical reason to keep billing.

So he ran the risk-benefit again and found no benefit left on either side. He discharged the case and told the tech early so they had time to find work. His takeaway is worth keeping. Trying telehealth and finding it weak is not an ethics problem. Continuing after you know it does not work is the problem. Mike adds the mirror image: do not stretch a case with one more assessment just to keep it open.

I'm just the man in the box.

From the talk — Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

Billing Transparency, Audit Trails, and the Uses Worth Defending

Billing honesty starts with the session note. The hosts want caregivers to review and sign off on every note, in every state. That gives the family a record of what happened and how long it ran. If your state does not require it, do it anyway. It clears up most of the billing questions before anyone asks them.

Audit the rest. A HIPAA compliant platform (the federal health privacy law) logs when a session starts and ends, so use those logs. If you forget to start the timer, write that down in the note instead of guessing later. Build a quality check so a second person drops into a live session now and then. Mike also keeps cameras on for the session, with a sensible exception when the screen itself becomes the distraction.

They close on the uses they defend without blinking. Caregiver training with behavioral skills training (teach, model, practice, give feedback). Reviewing data with a parent. Watching a caregiver run a session and giving feedback right then. On-demand check-ins when something blows up at the house. Weekly game planning so the in-person day has a target. The research base is still thin: mostly young children, mostly pandemic era, little long-term data. Until that fills in, keep asking the local question about this client and this service.

if parents are signing off on that that's now full transparency

From the talk — Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA & Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA

Common questions

Is telehealth effective for ABA services?▾

It can be, when the fit is right and the delivery is strong. The hosts see the best results in caregiver training and staff training, where coaching and feedback carry the work. They are far more cautious about remote direct therapy and remote direct assessment. They also note the research is thin on older learners and on long-term outcomes.

Can you complete an ABA assessment over telehealth?▾

Indirect tools like interviews and rating forms hold up reasonably well on video. Direct testing usually does not, because you cannot control prompting, materials, or what the camera shows. If you must start remotely, write starter goals only. Tell the receiving analyst that a direct assessment is still needed. Expect an addendum once someone sees the learner in person.

How do you monitor RBT treatment integrity remotely?▾

Decide in advance what you will watch, how you will score it, and how often. Take real integrity data instead of impressions, and document it in the session note. Then act on it, because feedback with no follow-through teaches staff that nothing counts. If integrity stays low and progress stays flat, change the arrangement or transition the case.

When should a behavior analyst stop telehealth services?▾

Stop when the data show the client is not benefiting and the barriers will not move. Staff schedules, caseload gaps, and a technician's need for hours are real pressures. None of them are clinical reasons to continue. Ask for a transition, or for a caseload where video is a true fit. Trying telehealth is fine; continuing after you know it is not working is not.

Do I earn CEUs by listening to the podcast episode?▾

No. Listening to the episode does not earn credit on its own. Credit is earned only by completing the OpenCEU event for this talk.

About the speaker

Sean Yocum, MA, BCBA, LBA and Michael Carrero, BCBA, LBA host the Rad N Bad podcast from Hickory Learning Group. Both earned supervision hours during the pandemic. Both have delivered, received, and supervised ABA services by video, including caregiver training, remote assessment, and remote support of technicians. In this episode they cover risk-benefit decisions, assessment validity, and supervisor competency. They also cover remote integrity monitoring, billing transparency, and when to transition a case.

This summary was generated from the recording’s transcript. Quotes are taken word for word from the talk.

What you'll learn

  1. 1Conduct a risk-benefit analysis to determine whether telehealth is clinically appropriate for a specific client and service component. Describe at least two ways telehealth administration can threaten the validity of assessment results, and identify assessment formats better suited to remote delivery. Identify at least three supervisor and supervisee competencies needed to provide effective telehealth supervision, including remote treatment-integrity monitoring. Describe billing and documentation practices, such as caregiver review of session notes, that increase transparency in telehealth services. Identify conditions under which a behavior analyst should modify telehealth services or transition a case.

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